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CHANGING OIL BRANDSOPTIMAX TO PENNZOIL #4436689 02/02/10 09:17 PM
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I have a 2002 225 Optimax with 300 hours been using the Optimax Oil for several yearsno problems. I am thinking of changing to one of the Pennzoil brands for a cost savingsPremium Plus Synthetic Blend or XLF Synthetic Blend. Any feedback would be appreciated.


Re: CHANGING OIL BRANDSOPTIMAX TO PENNZOIL [Re: BR459] #4436718 02/02/10 09:27 PM
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ka-bang!
got an extended warranty?
get the Opti oil from Tommy at Rockwall Marine- bulk is 20.00 a gallon.
should be cheaper than the Pennzoil.


I love the smell of 2 stroke in the morning !!!

Re: CHANGING OIL BRANDSOPTIMAX TO PENNZOIL [Re: SNAKEBIT] #4436796 02/02/10 09:44 PM
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ditto. stick with whats working. powerheads are expensive!

Re: CHANGING OIL BRANDSOPTIMAX TO PENNZOIL [Re: SNAKEBIT] #4436808 02/02/10 09:47 PM
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Snakebit do you have any personal history using Pennzoil or do know someone that had problems with the oil? No extended warranty.

Re: CHANGING OIL BRANDSOPTIMAX TO PENNZOIL [Re: BR459] #4437196 02/02/10 11:18 PM
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Optimax HAS TO HAVE the opti oil.
boom-rattle-rattle-boom
I just worked up a material list on a 2001 225hp Optimax It went over $13K ........


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Re: CHANGING OIL BRANDSOPTIMAX TO PENNZOIL [Re: Mike Halfmann the boatmann] #4437484 02/03/10 12:33 AM
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I believe there was a case where a court ruled whereas if a manufacturer specified that a particular BRAND of oil was required to be used in thier motorsthen the manufacturers had to supply the oil FREE OF CHARGE. If they specify a particular grade liketwc 3 or something elseits differentbut if the specify a brand like Optimax brand oilit has to be supplied free of charge. This may be worth checking into. Its not fair for a manufacturer to monopolize oil by making it his own brandrequireing that you use itand charging outrageous prices for it. THERE IS NOTHING NEW IN THIS OLD WORLD. My hunch would be that there is nothing special about the oil. Yamaha does the same tricks with thier Yamalube. If thier oil is so greatand far advancedwhy arent they oil conglomerates instead of outboard motor manufacturers? I would love to see Mercury or Yamahas oil refinery? I bet they dont have one.


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Re: CHANGING OIL BRANDSOPTIMAX TO PENNZOIL [Re: leanin post] #4437608 02/03/10 01:01 AM
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Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act is what you're thinking of.

In this case I say fiddlesticks. The Opti does not require Opti oil. I asked them before. They hummed and hahhed a bit but they ended up saying the exact quote thats in their warranty book.
By the way.......the Mercury Optimax oil IS NOT TCW-3 rated.

I've been using the Premium Plus Pennzoil for years. Its much cheaper than the Mercury oil. I can buy 2 1/2 gallons for 30 dollars at Academy. Thats 12 dollars a gallon.



I don't use Mopar oil for my Dodge either although my manual recommends it.


Re: CHANGING OIL BRANDSOPTIMAX TO PENNZOIL [Re: Allison1] #4437683 02/03/10 01:20 AM
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IF IT HAS THE TC3 ECT LIKE IM SURE IT DOESGO FOR ITI HAVE A TEN YEAR OLD VMAX AND HAVENT RUN YAMALUBE ETC AND ITS FINE. YOUR CALL.......

Re: CHANGING OIL BRANDSOPTIMAX TO PENNZOIL [Re: YAMADOGGY] #4437852 02/03/10 01:58 AM
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Read your outboard owners manualthey all state you can run any TC-W3 certified oil. They of course will "recommend" to run their own oil but by law they cannot state you have to run it exclusively.

Re: CHANGING OIL BRANDSOPTIMAX TO PENNZOIL [Re: YAMADOGGY] #4437859 02/03/10 01:59 AM
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I am on my third 250xs and broke it in on Merc oilthen switched over to Penzoil Full Synthetic and have had zero failures.

Re: CHANGING OIL BRANDSOPTIMAX TO PENNZOIL [Re: TODDXDC] #4438373 02/03/10 03:42 AM
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Maybe that's why I didn't buy the mercury. Use what ever makes you comfortable. I baby my yamaha with citgo oil. I wait for it go on sale for 7.99 and then I stock up. 6 years strong.

Re: CHANGING OIL BRANDSOPTIMAX TO PENNZOIL [Re: TODDXDC] #4438848 02/03/10 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted By: TODDXDC
I am on my third 250xs and broke it in on Merc oilthen switched over to Penzoil Full Synthetic and have had zero failures.

I hate the high price myself. TODDXDChow many hours did you put on those motors before you sold them? Alsowhy did you break it in on Merc. oilthen switch? I'm guessing the rings will not seat with full synthetic?


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Re: CHANGING OIL BRANDSOPTIMAX TO PENNZOIL [Re: H20 Dawg] #4438880 02/03/10 08:51 AM
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What's the difference in price of the 2 oils? Just curious.


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Re: CHANGING OIL BRANDSOPTIMAX TO PENNZOIL [Re: OldFrog] #4439114 02/03/10 01:28 PM
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switch to the full synthetic pennzoildo a full decarb first with seafoam (directions on the can) or at least run a can of seafoam in 10 gal of gas/oil mix to clean it out good. after this you will be impressed with the performance gains you get.
buy the full syn at wally world.
It really does make a difference.

Re: CHANGING OIL BRANDSOPTIMAX TO PENNZOIL [Re: hopalong] #4440306 02/03/10 07:07 PM
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My motor is cleaner with the Pennzoil oil than the Mercury oil. I personaly know of many people that use the Pennzoil premium plus oil in an optimax with many hours and have had no problems.

If it is that damn significant that a Mercury has to have Mercury/Quicksilver oilMercury should be giving us the oil for FREE.

Most of all the BS we hear about a Mercury has to have Mercury oil is hear say. Contact Mercury and ask them for yourself.

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